He has often saved more than one juerga.
[Laugh] I'm the first person to love the party. And it's even more enjoyable when it's you who propose those spaces for dance. I offer it whenever I can. In the end, the holiday system is as it is: you are subject to guarantees and permits, and I want to propose an alternative. Let people self-manage their party. Do you want to play? Take the bike, follow the mountain, make your party.

The pandemic was going to complicate it n.Lo has made it very
difficult because there has been a social risk situation. But at the same time it has made us organize differently, more familiar, more controlled. Everyone needs to be with people, socialize, dance. Let everyone do it in their own way.

For you, though, it's not a juerga. It also has its claim.
It has two faces. There is that energy to dance and enjoy music, but behind it there is also a claim to reclaim public spaces. The street depends on private interests, at the service of the powerful. Being doing whatever you want in a plaza with your bike and music is a political attitude to claim that the street belongs to everyone.

So can the rave be claimed without looking too justly?
Of course, absolutely. Rave is a political action of resistance in favor of public spaces. The street is increasingly being privatized and leisure becomes consumption, paid. People are denied the possibility of self-managing the party, that is, enjoying their time.

Where does music hobby come from?
Since I was a kid, I've been educated in music, we've been very fond at home. I've played in the village band and in the charanges, the trombone, and I've also played the piano. I live music. Then I've left the instruments, but as a DJ you always have the music present. And most of all, I want to make public music, share it. I did it with charanga and I do it as a DJ. Don't store it for you, music is always with more people. That's what makes you pretty.

What is transformative music? For me, it's a
superpotent binder, because it adds rhythm, words and messages to the street. It's a common hymn for people. Everyone can enjoy music. It is a very powerful tool for cohesion. And on the street, you put it at everybody's disposal, without going through institutions or music halls. People have a lot of empathy for this. Well, overall [laughter].

How does the DJ make his music his own? Because it's not his creator ...
In 95 percent, it's music from others. I've done some remix, but I've always preferred to interact with the public rather than being recording in the studio. Every DJ gives his touch, his speech to the music he paints. It motivates me how to associate one style with the other. In the end, I also drank from many styles: I played in the charanga, in the Big Band, Latin music, and I also had a rap group. I like to mix all of that and put my seal.

And what is that stamp?
It's a music to enjoy, to dance without prejudice. My only label is that, which I don't have labels. I keep in my suitcase any song that conveys something nice. My most remarkable feature is that I mix music with the bicycle to make it mobile, go out into the street and take it to places that, a priori, don't understand as spaces of fiesta.La music is a part of the coin for you, because the bicycle
is the other one.

I, from a young age, have connected the bicycle with leisure, to go to the mountain. Then, when you go to the city, you start to understand the bicycle as an almost political element, from the point of view of mobility, and as an alternative not to depend on the car. On the other hand, from the artistic and musical point of view, in the perfumery field, the union of the bicycle and music allows me to claim the public space. I consider it an instrument of creativity and expression, and I experience it.

It is also one of the drivers of the Critical Mass of Pamplona. This cycling march starts once a month. What is it?
We haven't invented anything, it's got many years of travel around the world. He remained active in Pamplona for years, especially linked to the environmental movements, in a more militant sense. Then it came in decline. I, on the return of Madrid, moved with similar desire to reactivate the movement. I add music to make it more playful, more fun. It's basically claimed that public space is for bicycles and for people, and not so much for cars. Our cities have always been looking at the car in favor of the private vehicle.

What does Pamplona look like from above?
There are two Pamplona where you move. For me it was an urban area, that of Opus Dei and that of UPN. But at the same time it's a provincial city, almost a village, and there's guay, because everything you do is welcome, it's easy to network. As a city, Pamplona is constantly changing, because there are many people who want to turn around the city, proposing things, taking them out into the street. It's a city to play. In big cities, things dissolve. They leave a mark here.