Being the daughter of Che Guevara has been for you: dedication, honor, advantage... How have you lived it?
It has been a great pleasure, since I was young I knew I was going to receive many things for being the daughter of a man loved by my people, but my mother was very prudent and taught us to take what we have gained alone, without pretensions, as a woman and as a man of Cuba. The mother had not accepted any special treatment and always demanded that we be treated like any young Cuban.
You had little relationship with your father and you were very small when mataron.Cuando the message of the revolution was not spreading around the world, as it was being used for it, it often used 16 hours a
day, as he was the prime minister of industry of the revolution. He also created the voluntary work on Saturdays, so on weekends we saw too little. Once one said ironically, “I would like to know how many hours the minister works.” The next day, the minister called the guy and told him to appear at one. “Well, then at one in the afternoon, after eating, well,” he said. “No, no, at one in the evening,” they replied, “What a face was left! When she left for Bolivia, her mother chose to stay with her children.
He went on his way, however, he studied medicine and went to Nicaragua internationalist.
I arrived in Nicaragua in the last year of my career, where the revolution had just taken power, we were 480 on our team, and it was a very hard experience. In our hospitals, human life was given a lot of importance, but there I remember that we were once putting the tubes into a newborn that could not breathe, Nurse Anita told me that that child “The Lord called him,” so as not to try so much. I thought the hyjoputometer had broken. I was alone in the first two births I had in Nicaragua, I had not yet undergone surgery and I didn't know how to sew it. I had done a 100% master's degree and not a single child had died to me.
Then to Angola, to war.
Yes, a year ago I was in Moan, on the east of the island. My mother cried a lot, but I had no special connection with Cuba, so I left. The hijoputometer exploded there. There was only one nurse in the hospital, between mud, no electricity... It was very hard to see, for example, a father with three children dead in his neck. When they came back, they invited us to Italy, where they had to pay tribute to their father in a village. My sister and I had the opportunity to visit the Vatican City. He was furious at the thought that a single golden carpet from the museum in Angola could save the lives of all my children. If God exists, he is a racist. I returned to Angola with my husband, and there we made our first daughter, Estefanía, born in Cuba on 21 December 1988. The following day, Cuba, Angola and South Africa signed a peace agreement with the Government of Maduro. The independence of Namibia was recognized and withdrawn. It was the beginning of the end of apartheid in South Africa, it was a real victory. So Fidel asked me to put Victoria on him, but the husband who was in Angola had chosen Estefanía, because he had reached an agreement that if he was a girl he would choose him. Fidel got angry with me and said, “What an ugly name.” He approached the crib and said to the child, “I hope you are not as obstinate as your mother.” A month later, I received from Angola a letter from my husband, telling the child to give him the name I wanted... Too late.
How is the health of internationalism today?The father said
that being an internationalist is not only helping a people, but sharing their destiny. By living with these peoples, our internationalism is very alive, in many parts of the world they do not think so, they mix internationalism with charity, with giving it what is left to you. Our mission at the moment must be to curb the wars in the Middle East, to demand that European governments that do not want immigrants contribute to the real economic and social development of these countries.
Outside Cuba, in many villages, healthcare is a business.
That's a shame, because no one can put a price on life. But I also know some admirable European doctors, a copy of Switzerland who does not want to go into private health care. The doctor is close to human suffering, it's really a kind of priesthood, it's to be useful to people. If you don't think about that, it's best to move away without spoiling our trade. We treat the immigrants who are in the hospital we have in Qatar, not the Qataris, but the local government pays us well for that service. It is funded to countries that cannot pay with that money, such as the hospital we have in Haiti.
And in Cuba, the latest hopeful discoveries against cancer have happened. What does Cuba have to do with that knowledge?
Treatment for lung and prostate cancer has been developed and an anti-breast and uterine trial is underway. We're going to charge America expensive, but we can't charge its people, we're going to give them if citizens need it, many Americans spend the money to pay for their health insurance, and if we have to go one by one to get vaccinated. Fidel said we can serve about 5,000 Americans every year if they send us them. We have a brigade of 10,000 doctors, Henry Reeve, who we prepared when she was Katrina to move her to the territories affected by the hurricane, but Bush refused to help her.
You said in your speech in Bilbao that the cultures and peoples we do not know cannot be judged.
You don't have the right to judge a people from the outside, if you don't really know what's going on inside of mel.Aprend I got a lot from the quechua counties of Ecuador, I learned to do physiological deliveries really, very different from what I studied in medical school. The indigenous people have the knowledge of the people, and I saw that they knew it more than I did. I lived in Angola for two years, and yet I realized I wasn't able to judge many things there. Another example, for me, was that of Spain: I have grandparents from all over the state, Basques, Canaries, from Castilla-La Mancha and Catalans. Well, when I first arrived in Catalonia, when I read posters in Catalan and English at the airport, I was amazed, I thought: Where the hell am I? In addition, I gave a conference in Vic and had to use the translator. For me that was a great awakening, because in Cuba Spain is Spain and it is already. Before I knew the internal struggles, I didn't think these kinds of conflicts would occur here, I had no idea.
Wars have not ended, however, and you said that the threat of war is also the weapon of imperialismo.Si Syria does not want to follow the fate of Libya and Iraq, it has
no choice but to resist the attack. That is where the Hizbollah can help, because I have been in Lebanon twice and I very much appreciate that Lebanese army for its consistency, which are the only ones who have defeated Israel. I've been convicted as a friend of terrorists, but I don't care, I'm a friend of brave people. Cuba broke off relations with Israel out of respect for the Palestinians, who have already denied.
We have sometimes heard that Cuba uses health and education as an excuse to conceal a bad human rights situation. What is your answer?
Of the nearly 60 rights established by the UN, 17 are not observed in Cuba. For example, we cannot fulfil the right to travel, because they do not accept Cuban money abroad. But the basic rights are: health, education, housing, social security and others are well established in the people. We show that you can live differently, that even if you're poor, you can be different. To do this, education is essential, continuing to receive the cultural level of the people will be a challenge for yesterday, today and tomorrow. There are many things to improve in Cuba, it is not a perfect society at all, we have never said so, but compared to many countries of the world, ours is a very clean, beautiful society, able to calmly raise your children.
Sacrifice, austerity… But you say you like living well.I also like to live well, I'm
a communist, I don't eat it, I like good things, but not at the cost of your sacrifice, but to share with everyone and with the people.
The relationship with tourism has deepened the differences. How can we compensate for it?
Living in a socialist society. These differences are reduced by the State, which invests everything that comes into its hands in the economic, social and cultural development of all. You may have more money than I do, but you will pay taxes and buy it in state stores. At a special time, the differences were more pronounced. Now, when the situation has improved, the differences are not so noticeable, but, for example, do not deceive you: you live in a socialist society and we will not allow there to be millions in Cuba.
Self-employed workers have been authorized and multiplied in recent times in Cuba. Is it not better to promote cooperativism?
There were a lot of people who paid the state's wages but didn't produce it. No state can accept that, let alone at a time of crisis in which we were. They were therefore to be taken out of office, but how can that be justified in a socialist society? It is unacceptable. So they thought about helping the diner start on its own. There were self-employed, but they've grown a lot in recent times. In any case, from our point of view, cooperatives must be strengthened, they are closer to our model of society: you may gain less, but there is more guarantee that you will not rob and prices will be regulated, setting affordable prices for products and services. In addition to agricultural cooperatives, services are being developed. In recent times, a transport cooperative has helped to improve public transport in Havana with its small buses. Cuba is a great laboratory, we are trying to find solutions to the problems that are before us.
If Venezuela’s oil disappears, some forecast a new special era.
No, we are producing four million tonnes of oil, half of what we need. In recent times we are drilling new wells that will give us even more, so in the coming years we could achieve stability, even without Venezuela’s oil. But the important thing is to defend the changes that have been made in Venezuela, which have been insufficient. Without knowing what our government is going to say, I believe that if it is attacked by the US Troop and Venezuela is asking us for help, we will certainly be there.
Some people talk about the future of Cuba, about the transition.
It's not the right word. We are a growing people, on which we must deepen, but always within socialism. Since we were a colony of Spain, we have been the target of the United States Government. We are well aware of their policies and their malicious mechanisms.
We also read that the last revolutionary has died, by Faithful, but the Cuban revolution has not come down.
There's no one more blind than the one who doesn't want to see. It is true that the revolution began on the initiative of the leaders, Fidel’s contribution is undeniable, but one man or two is not enough to maintain a revolution. The greatest contribution of the revolution has been the formation of human values, we have decided as a people that our path is socialism, but they do not realize it. They live so close to Cuba that, despite the attacks, they have not defeated us, they have not even been able to take our smile away.
Fidel ezagutzen ez duen jendeak ez du ideiarik nolako neurria zuen pertsona moduan. Egun batez, Fidel ahizpa eta biokin bildu zen, aitaren heriotzarako presta gintezen. Bi neskato ginen. Zer axola zaio iraultza baten buruzagiari, herrialde baten presidenteari, bi neskatoren minak? Gu nolabait babesteko ardura hartu zuen… Maitatzeko ahalmen izugarria duen pertsona batek soilik egin dezake hori. Gau hartan gurekin bildu zen, eta aitaren gutun bat jaso zuelako istorioa asmatu zuen, gutun hartan aitak esan ziola bera hilez gero ez genuela negarrik egin behar, eta ez genuela egingo hitzemanarazi zigun, pioneroen hitza eman behar geniola. “Osaba, baina ni oraindik ez naiz pioneroa” esan nion, eta berak “tira, orduan emadazu zure iraultzaile hitza, hori gertatuz gero ez duzula negarrik egingo”. Nik berehala eman nion hitza, sei urte eta erdirekin jada iraultzailea sentitzen bainintzen. Biharamunean, amarekin elkartu nintzen, pozez. Egun batzuk emanak zituen Trinidaden, historia eta gizarte ikerketa bat egiten, bera historialaria baita. Celia Sanchezek (Fidelen idazkaria) platerkada bat zopa amari eramateko esan zidan, bere gelan zela. Hara joan nintzen ni, pozik, platera eskuetan. Gelan sartu eta ama negar batean aurkitu nuen, eskuetan gutun bat zuela. Harrituta geratu nintzen, ama hain lur jota sekula ikusi gabea nintzen eta aitaren agur gutuna zeukan, “hau irakurtzen baduzue, zuen artean ez nagoelako izango da”, zioena. Begiak bustitzen hasi zitzaizkidan, baina orduan, Fideli emandako hitza gogoratu eta negarrari eutsi nion. Gau hartan amarekin egin nuen lo, Celiaren logelan, eta biharamunean esnatzean, inguru osoan burukoak nituela konturatu nintzen. Dagoeneko bakarrik egin ohi nuen lo, baina Fidelek ez zekien hori eta gauean heldu zelarik burukoak jarri zizkidan inguruan, ohetik jausi ez nendin.
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