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"The lesson of pleasure is a lesson that we have not yet overcome"

  • Clown is known as Virginia Imaz (Donostia-San Sebastián, 1962) and also owns the Emakunde Prize of the last edition of this award. On June 5 he will tell erotic stories in the Rincón de la Mujer de Azpeitia, within the Tuppersex program that will begin at 17:00 hours.

05 June 2019 - 16:01
Argazkia: Virginia Imaz.

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What are the characteristics of an erotic story?

Although within eroticism there is a genitalized sensuality, there is a more global sensuality, related to skin and senses. If that's how we understand eroticism, all stories would be erotic, because they're all sensation-filled journeys. For example, in a story, if the character is making a cake and the narrator is talking about ingredients, smells and flavors, it gives us sensations to all, it encourages us pleasure. What happens is, when you talk about erotic stories, you want to look for a sexual situation, not only feel things on your skin, but also excite a little bit.

You're Clown, and one of your occupations is to make people laugh. Do your stories have any humor?

I work a lot on eroticism with humor. I'm a clown, and the purpose of the sessions is to address a taboo subject, knowing that it's embarrassing people. Sexologist and expert in gender violence Inma Merino will show sex toys in Tuppersex, which will be a tool to talk about diversity, desire, pleasure… In addition, people will have the opportunity to ask questions and my desire is to help Inma work these issues from a feminist perspective. It is our intention that the women participating in the programme should be relaxed, and laugh very peacefully. What I want to get through stories is to reassure people to support the pedagogical part of Inma and create a climate of trust. If people want me to ask you or make a comment, we want you to feel free, because you're not going to be tried.

What will the programme look like?

Inma divides Tuppersex's session into several sections, and in those from one part to another, I'm going to tell stories. My stories have to do with the things that Inma explains. Alternating the two parts, the session becomes lighter.

Are the stories you've created the ones you're going to tell today?

There are very few erotic stories with a gender perspective that get me excited. And how do I excite others if I don't expose myself? So there are stories that I've created and others that I've adapted. The four I'm going to tell you today are those created by me; one of them is based on the experience of a friend and the other three on my fantasies or experiences. My stories, in general, are not very explicit, they're more erotic than pornographic, because people expect pornography when they talk about eroticism.

The sitting is for women only. Why?

That's right. Tuppersex sessions can also be done for men and women, but in this case it will only be for women. The system has rules and roles for men and women, but women have less information and more burden, and they experience more symbolic violence. That's why it's a program just for them.

Do you still think it is important to talk about eroticism among women?

That seems to me to be fundamental. Tuppersex sessions are attended by people of many ages, and sometimes I'm surprised by what they ask us. We think we've improved on a lot of things, but today, the pornography that we can find on the Internet is the main part of sex education. There's a lot of trouble, and today women are still asking a lot of questions related to violence. For example, a young woman does not want to have sex, she says no, but because what she has next to her is her partner, in the end she ends up maintaining relationships. I understand that this is a violation. But there are still a lot of ghosts. "If I say no, it will leave me," people think. We still want to give pleasure to others, we are prisoners of that culture.

Always looking at others?

Still. In addition, I think we have a great lack of knowledge of the body. In the construction of masculinity, the most common thing is to masturbate men and also say that they masturbate. But when it comes to building femininity, masturbating is still not well seen everywhere, and it's very difficult for women to talk about it. There is still a feeling of guilt in women’s masturbation, it looks like something dirty… And if I don’t explain my body, I will hardly know what I like. So in a couple relationship, I'll be thinking about what the other wants and I'll forget my pleasure. The lesson of pleasure is a lesson that we have not yet overcome.

What ideas will you try to convey in the program?

Sexuality is a source of pleasure that we invite women to explore and experience. We should not accept anything we don't want and we should empower ourselves through the skin. It is an exercise in empowerment, as it is not enough to empower intellectually. If we don't empower ourselves in pleasure and sex, it's not worth empowering ourselves. The question of power has to pass through the body. In addition, as I get older, I think it is important to claim that sexual desire is present throughout life, and not only among young people.


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