They claim pride no, critical pride.

Creating rainbow color products is very simple, but not showing real and active positioning. We are not worshipers of anyone, multinationals or institutions. Capitalism is always ready to distort and profit from struggles, stepping people and exploiting territories. As they do with the feminist movement. We say it out loud: pride is not for sale.

Do some pride cause more itching than others?

Bodies and normative lives don't cause itching, they're normalized, but we don't want to be normalized, we want to question and transform the system of oppression, we want to build stimulating lives for all.

Heteronorma marks the binary genus well. How do you appreciate that this year, for the first time, a singing man comes out in the Alarde?

We have received the news with satisfaction. The Alarde Igualitario has the participation of an ever-expanding group of citizens, and this year this action shows that anyone can make a supposedly intangible figure. We know that both gender and alarming are performative, and in addition the person who has socialized as a woman harms the role of cantinera, is not spontaneous. In Irun he has given much to say and has opened a new way to continue breaking traditions and standards.

The tip of the right and his speeches seem lately comfortable. Should we worry?

Yes, the place of these hate speeches in society is very worrying. We know that the rights of all vulnerable groups have been acquired through struggles on the streets and that we still have many to achieve. We must remember that we can lose these rights at any time and continue to organise ourselves. We also have to work to activate society.

Is it rare that in a large city like Irun, such a group has not yet been formed? How do non-heterogeneous identities live in Irun?

It does not seem strange to us. Because in society there is a false belief in our reality: they have emptied the struggle of content and opened a discourse in which everything is achieved. In addition, our precarious lives do not facilitate organization.

On the other hand, rather than “no heteros”, we should talk about sex and gender dissidents. In general terms, we would say that we are not well, although we cannot give a joint answer, since the intersections of the footsteps that pass through us are very different. It is clear that we have many privileges and that to dismantle this we have to work actively.

What have you prepared for this 28th of June? What message do you want to convey?

Irún is immersed in parties and the 28th is celebrated the day of the cantineras; being the fan instrument used by the cantineros, we want to conquer it and we have organized the workshop of Fan's demands in the afternoon, to write our demands in the fans and shake our feathers with pride. Next we will perform the performance and reading of the manifesto. In the context of parties, we want to recover our place. And what message do we want to convey? Our manifesto will have a historical framework and will be full of intersectional demands.

What is the attitude of the City Council towards the collective?

We know that there are people who have made proposals to the City Hall at different times and who have denied them or left them as they are. We feel right now that we are a decorative element of the city hall and that instrumentalization, instead of helping us, treads us. Little, bad and late.

What needs do they intend to meet in the city, linked to the collective?

On the one hand, we see the need to create and organize the network. On the other hand, we want to provide both emotional and economic resources, and we also imagine a physical space where we can develop our initiatives and receive training and advice, a place, a safe space where our needs are met holistically.