How do you bring this situation caused by COVID-19?

Also in normality, I would say that I live quite confined; perhaps the rest of my situation is not that. I spend many hours at home, compared to the rest of the population. I spend many hours sticking to the computer, which is for me the window to look at the world. Therefore, this state of lockdown has not made me too hard.

Problems begin when the confinement begins to descend the slope. I mean, when we go out on the street. Because we have to touch things, it's necessary for us. And it's one of the easiest ways to get infected or get the virus, it's said. It is therefore another obstacle for us. Deaf ears also have their problems. They read on the lips and if we put the mask we have fucked it.

Washing will not have an easy solution...

There is no alternative. My cane is my longest finger. I adapt to my cane, but my journeys are close, and to make some longer journeys I need help. When I got somewhere, I'm going to touch the wall, the table -- to see where things are. All this you do is touched and there is no alternative. That is why I attach great importance to hand washing. It's basic. I have not used glove; after all, what you do not transmit with your hands, because you transmit it with gloves.

I also go with the mask, although I do not see him too much advantage; I have read so many things that I no longer know where the advantages are and where the disadvantages are. But somehow I make an implicit agreement with others, like saying I'm going to wear a mask to make them quieter.

The separation of two meters is also complicated in your case.

That is what we are at the mercy of others. Those of us who are blind are obliged to trust each other more. We're always worried about whether we're doing it right or whether we're hurting it. And if nobody tells us, we ask, am I OK here? Or is it that I get stuck? These phrases are integrated into our vocabulary, and in this situation, even more so. Naturalness contributes to this.

Will the same happen to brands or instructions placed on the ground or on the walls?

Yes, it is true. For us, those aren't worth it, we're completely sold. This is another example of the cases where we leave responsibility to people. I hope that, if I do it wrong, you will tell me, there's no more mystery. I'm lucky that my partner does the shopping, Eva. Sometimes I help him, especially by stretching his legs, but very rarely.

Have you noticed your willingness to collaborate on the part of people?

I would say that that sensibility that has always existed, that empathy of putting yourself in the other's skin, people have taken more

Think about it. But that depends on each one. And in that there are no rules, it depends on each other's sensitivity and consciousness.

At 50 meters from my portal, it's an adventure for me. But I haven't experienced that much at this time, because Eva has done the shopping and things like that. When it touched me, I have felt the same attitude as usual, that willingness to help, perhaps something more intense than in other times.

Have you been offered help from institutions or associations?

I have received calls from institutions or associations, yes, asking about my situation. I have been called from the ONCE, also from Elkartu ... Is there anyone to help me in case of an emergency? The measure has been taken in anticipation of people realizing how they are. In that sense, I have had no problem, but there will be more crude cases. A number of recommendations and guidelines have also been disseminated at the meeting. They also called me once from the Hernani City Hall, asking me about my personal situation, and they offered me help.

What did you do with the lockdown hours?

I've tried to do some exercise. I already have a static bike at home, and I've also walked down the stairs in my house, from the door up, up and down. I also have an anecdote. My house consists of five floors and between each floor there are 18 steps or steps. These are a total of 90 levels. And I was trying to go up and down 12 times, because that's 1080 steps, just like the minimum pension we asked pensioners for.

Moreover, the movement that has occurred in the balconies during the confinement has been nice. I have participated every day. But if not, I haven't had much contact with the outside. When this gets better, I'm going to like normal relationships, have that sense of recoupling, because we all need.

Are you worried about how things are going to be when you reach what they've called the new normality?

I think we are all going to be concerned about how we are going to gradually return to the first week. I have banned the word normality. I don't believe in that normality, every time we're told we have to go back to that. Most of the reasons for what we live now already existed before. This virus has been an accident that has put things on the table. Of course it's been hard to be home for two months. But from there, fear, restlessness, ignorance, information we have, truth ... I don't know what we're going to discover, what behavior we're going to adopt as citizens. But I see a very important situation. And when you're at home, that desire for reinsertion gets sharper. I would like to take up the views of others. I've read and heard a lot of things, I have a clutter in my head, and I want to measure my arguments with others.

In the meantime, you have to settle for the phone...

Maybe at the beginning of the lockdown, yes, we flushed more phone calls, but then it went off and there have been more whatsapp. It's been terrible. I didn't see just television, I didn't watch radio, and once again my friend was the computer.