The director and screenwriter of two breaths, Jon Mikel Fernandez, explained that the peculiarity of this film with torture is to count from the perspective of mothers and children. He says they had a "triple challenge." "On the one hand, the film that brought to the surface the wound of Iratxe and Mari Nieves, who until then had not talked about torture. The first challenge, therefore, was to do it with mime and caring for the characters." The second challenge was "cinematographic," Fernandez said later, how to make the story in the game rules of the screen, and that the sea was the travel companion for the story, as the sea has a sense of freedom, but also of drunkenness and breathing. And the third challenge, in the words of Fernández: "We didn't want to make a pamphlet, although I'm in favor of the pamphlets. We wanted to denounce torture in another way, explaining that it is a present wound today, that it is not a thing of the past, because today we continue to suffer its consequences."

Made with contributions from citizens

Kima Arzuaga spoke with simplicity and clarity before watching the film: "We are new to this world. We have done so without any kind of public subsidy, but the money has been put by scientists and that has helped us. Thanks to the people who have participated in the technical area and to the protagonists who have contributed their knowledge, heart and experience. A hug to Irache, who can't be here."

And after watching the movie, the public asked the first question, to see which doors they steered in search of resources and what answers they received. Arzuaga noted that the project was submitted to a subsidy from the Provincial Council of Gipuzkoa, but did not receive aid, and asked ETB not to have to pay for the use of the images in its file. "He told us it doesn't fit our project." In the coming weeks, it will be negotiated whether and under what conditions public television will broadcast this film. Arzuaga threw him with humor looking at Fernández: "After the doors, we didn't have a name in the movie world. This has made you better known, perhaps for a next one ...".

Sorzabal: Through unexpected ways, taking the floor in the movie

Fernandez explained that when they started filming the film, Sorzabal could not participate. But when they were already in the final phase, through a theater participating in jail, Sorzabal sent them a text explaining their experiences and their recorded reading (which appears at the end of the film). When he heard this, Mari Nieves decided to write a letter, and this is the one that opens the film.

In addition, when he learned that they were performing the film, Asier Arizeta contacted the authors and passed the video of the interview he made to Sorzabal some time ago. So, Sorzabal talks to the audience looking into the film's eyes.

At the premiere of the film, Sorzabal also looked for ways to join citizenship: On the same day and at the same time as it was broadcast in Irun, the prisoner also saw the film for the first time on the prison screen.

Why has the debate not come about?

Everyone took the floor to stress that torture is a complete system. "Anyone who practices torture is a link in a whole system that goes from the police to the judge. Therefore, to conclude, the decision must be made at the political level," Fernández said. In response to the public, he said that there is little room in the media for the issue of torture. And it left in the air the following question for reflection: "Why haven't two breathing movies created a debate? Two hypotheses come to mind. One, because the reality of torture is already uncovered or undeniable. And the second is indifference. That would be more serious."

Paco Etxeberria spoke at the end of the talk: "Between his two hypotheses, I remain undeniable. A survey of 20-year-olds says 80% said yes, they have been tortured "and a lot." When the Basque ball came out, there was a great stir, there was talk of torture, and there were those who asked not to show up. As you have said, torture is not a matter of the past, but a current problem: 7% of those who have been tortured have sequelae and need to be treated. Given the number of tortured people, this means that hundreds of people today are on the streets, but with the respect of society they need specific help, and that must be guaranteed."

"Society is also part of the torture apparatus"

The talk was closed by the words of Nekane Txapartegi, who gave his point of view on the previously mentioned topics:

"It's for or against torture, there's no middle way. What you don't answer, we know where it is.

Tortured beings are dead living beings. They shattered us, then everyone has their resources to complete them, but in addition to taking care of them, we need political recognition so that we do not get destroyed again.

Torture is systematic, yes, and the police is part of it, in the film you see that the doctors and judges who look the other way are also like this... but society is also part of that apparatus, because for many years people have not wanted to see and have wanted to take cases of torture as rare. Combating torture is a task for society as a whole: we stopped requests for extradition under the pressure of the street, because the Swiss Government made it difficult to become an accomplice to a State that torture. In fact, the media went from calling me "terrorist" to calling me "tortured."

I have taken the complaint as a collective therapy. In those five days the torturers decided about my life, now I don't want to let them decide. Whenever I have a chance, I will continue to take the micro, because, like here today, I will continue to make a collective complaint, because not everyone has had that opportunity. But I don't want to tell the torture of those who believe me, because I want to save the pain of those who want me. I want to speak out loud to those who try to keep torture and those who legitimize it."

Finally, he recalled "all mothers": "Our mother died a month ago. He has seen me free, but he has not known the political recognition of torture. I want their children to be seen free and politically recognized as tortured to Iratxe and Mari Nieves, and to all prisoners and mothers self-charged under torture."