Yolanda Castaño has been interviewed since she received the Spanish National Poetry Prize. The head of a row from one of them caught my attention because he said the second hardest thing he's ever done is win the prize. And I immediately began to look for what was the hardest thing for him: for poetry to be the profession. Complacency rarely notices Castaño, because he always says you have to try to the extreme. We have to try to be the best poet possible and not repeat the formulas used, including those that have worked for us in the past, because that kills us as creators. I'm reading the conversation in Aduna, in front of Elkar's distribution store. Next to the building is a plastic tent also filled with books. And I can't think of a better way to eliminate complacency: a great industrial ship full of books. Because you know your book isn't in the boxes coming out of it. Or maybe yes.