With what purpose did you create the
Har-harika collective?To change the imaginary around sewing and to make a network of dissident women and genres. We saw, for example, that many migrant women know how to sew, but they have no chance of working or sewing. So our idea was to create a space of learning and help for everyone.

What does the imaginary look like?
At first I wasn't attractive because I thought it would be very boring to walk in and stand. But thanks to my friends, the punkis and the most nomadic people, I've seen that it can be stitched differently, and it's not just women's stuff. So we want to convey that we can do what we want with a sewing machine.

So do they especially develop creativity?
Yes. However, it's important to become aware, blink and do things like this, because it helps people.

How does the network work?The first
objective was to have the workshop in Zeberio to leave a bit of Bilbao. We open the market we have in Arkulanda and we come together to sew. For example, because there's a person who has done the stitching diplomature, we've learned to put zippers on it. The idea is to ask the City Hall for a workshop.

Where do you get recycled material from?
People bring us everything. What's fine is delivered to those on the Welcome Refugees platform or to the Karmela space exchange room. The rest of us use it to transform it. For example, with the fabrics of a inflatable company we have made colored belt bags. It was the first time I used this material.

You do not use material of animal origin. Do you think the use of leather is widespread in crafts?
Yes. Leather is very difficult and also a specialist. Non-use has political and personal facilities. The use of leather has been closely linked to ancient traditions. Many times they say it lasts a lot, and it's true, but the fabric of the swollen ones is stronger than the skin and is recycled. Furthermore, it does not harm anyone. However, it is difficult to sew.

You make punk sewing, self-managed and transfeminist, is there a political project behind besides sewing?
Our intention is to extend the project to women's homes and empowerment schools. We rely on transfeminism, because we believe that more things are created by relying on and exchanging.

Do you think the collective can help the people?
Yes, because we are offering culture. Although there are many things in Zeberio, for example, dance and language classes, there is not much to do with craft. We want to create a service for the people, with weekly repairing workshops.

To finance, they sell bags of belts and portfolios of pistols. Is the use of gun covers increasing?
The aim of the sale is to create a fund for the collective that allows to buy a number of things. Even if recycled material is used, things must always be bought. As I normally use guns, and I was out of money, I had to make a mistake for myself. So I made a pattern with my partner's gun. Since then, they started asking for friends. In addition, there are not many opportunities in the Basque Country. You see them at very specific fairs. However, the audience is very concreto.Tambi you

have moved away from the traditional aesthetic of pistols. Have they done so voluntarily?
We have to be a little daring. Because we really like colors and we create according to what we have, we try to introduce colors. However, as the Basati collection was the first, it became animal print [with skin pattern and coat of animals], because everyone follows that aesthetic. We saw it sold and we started making it more colorful.

Did the ACAB collection come from there?
Yes. As we had colorful scarves, we created the ACAB All Colours Are Beautiful collection. Three years ago we used the money to pay fines for COVID-19 and to make a resistance box.

What you do you open up through Instagram, is it a showcase?
Yes, that's why we did it; I don't have any other social network. We prefer the oral, but it does not go that far. However, so far we have adapted very well to oral generalization; in the people, interest has been easily awakened.

Why don't you want to show your face on social media?
Although we believe between the two, the goal is for more people to come and be part of a collective. We do not want to show our face, because we do not want to appropriate the political. In addition, we want to show that anyone can take it to the pistol, it doesn't have to be punk, a serious anarko or a modern person.