Patxi, I've already lost track: please tell me some initiative you don't participate in.

NaBai 2011, for example. I'm increasingly interested in PNV and Aralar. At home we're not from the Irrien Club. I've never been a sports team member and I don't pay match fees. They don't even see me in the church.

All right, I don't imagine you at the Basque Advisory Council either.

I was once in a meeting, Erramun Osa took me in the AEK car, and I was then working for the Europa Press agency. Imagine.

That's where the participating journalist comes from!

I don't think so. I went to the birth of Indymedia EH and taught me the way. Participation, open edition, licenses and free software. Everything else has been content self-management.

But journalism is participatory or not.

The owners of all colors notice. If you knew how Martxelo Otamendi kicked us a summer in a blog course we organized in Iruñea. Time has given us reason. At present, it is also intended to promote participation in the media of our environment. They're still on time.

The generation of information is in everyone's hands, the truth, but we don't.

Creation does not come about in itself. Fagor Appliances does not guarantee that everyone here is a chef. With information technologies. You have to act, you have to try, you have to learn, you have to teach, you have to read a lot, you have to work, you have to help, and maybe -- maybe you generate something.

Al Jazeera in Euskera, for example?

They have quickly understood us in Spain. We were saying we needed another TV model. We need television: better, more open, free if possible and participatory. Is it a lot to ask?

They were just asking that they didn't ask for picotazos on the net.

As in Mokoka Taberna, as in any family. The network, at least, avoids physical violence, possibly Jonan Fernández’s greatest achievement. Paul Ríos and Brian Currin, the two friends on Facebook. And the word is my main weapon.

We will agree, but nothing!

Soon we will get puntuEUS, the biggest prize that the Basque country will have on the net. From there, perhaps things will look clearer, like the strength we have. I'm optimistic. Our culture has a great future on the net and with new technologies.